Your Producers Aren't Quitting.
The Math Is.
You'll fire another one this quarter.
They still won't be the problem.
Four years of dialer telemetry. 10.7 million dials, 1.1 million conversations, 64,663 quotes. The ratios hold across every account we've watched.
Three dials. No answer. They quit.
That's how 9 in 10 leads get killed before they can close.
9 out of 10dials never connect.
Doesn't matter who you bought them from. The math is the math.
Four-year study of 10.7 million dials in one captive agency.
1,504 dials.One sale.
The funnel below is built from 4 years of dials at one operating P&C agency. The number you care about, dials per sale, falls out of three rates and your close rate. Adjust your close rate. See the number move.
11% is our quote-to-bind close rate. Yours is whatever yours is. The math doesn't bend, only the close rate does.
But here's the catch. Your close rate doesn't matter if the top of your funnel isn't stacked. Dials. Contacts. Transfers. 1,504 dials deep. We'll show you why.
18.79% transfer-fail rate. Industry average is around 30%. We drop fewer warm prospects.
1 in 10dials reaches a human.
The grind isn't the close. It's the dial. And the transfer.
7,157 dials · 4 sales · 1,789 dials per sale
As of April 29, 2026 · live floor data
Shared with us by one of our customers in April 2026. The 1,504 number above is the long-run average across four years.
54% close 1-3 days
after the first conversation.
Once they're on the phone, the sale isn't hard.
Getting them on the phone is.
54% bind in 3 days from the first conversation.
The other half? They close within two weeks.
So why aren't you printing money? Reaching them costs 1,504 dials. Your producers tap out at 200. On a good day.
And no licensed agent dials 200 a day for long.
When agents realize leads are the gas and callers are the engine, they stop vendor-hopping.
They stop hoping for the secret leads.
Your team can't sustain 1,504 dials per sale.
The ones who try? They quit. They burn out. They blame the leads.
A customer pays back 100x your lead cost.
Based on your retention. Run yours above.
Over the long haul, that's why our clients stopped haggling about lead price.
So they stopped haggling about lead price. They started stacking premium.
Same way the carriers think.
Run your own LTV in the calculator above.
The math doesn't care what you paid per lead. It cares what they pay you back.
Sold once. Period.
Tired of “exclusive” leads that show up on six other quotes? Same. That's why we don't do it.
Selling's hard enough.
We're not here to add to your pile.
Sold once. So we only win if you close.
That's the whole deal.
Book the 15-min call.
No pitch. Just shop talk.
25 leads/week minimum to start.